Jaime Hartman (00:07):
Welcome to the AIP Summit Podcast, your go-to resource for taking control of your autoimmune health, presented by AIP Certified Coaches. Hi, I'm Jaime Hartman.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (00:18):
And I'm Marie-Noelle Marquis. And we're here to equip you with the tools knowledge and support you need to effectively use the autoimmune protocol.
Jaime Hartman (00:26):
And today we are sharing some of the highlights from our sixth annual AIP summit. The sixth annual AIP summit was held in early January, 2025. It featured 26 presentations by AIP Certified Coaches over the span of five days. I hosted all of the sessions from my home office here in the Washington DC area, but the presenting coaches were zooming in from all over the world, and if I've counted correctly, they hailed from a total of seven different countries and we were juggling almost a dozen different time zones.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (01:06):
Wow, that was amazing to think that a community can form with such distance between the actual members and then there are people using AIP all over the world. I also wanted to point out that the coaches who presented were really diverse in terms of their professional background.
Jaime Hartman (01:25):
That's right. All of the presenters are AIP Certified Coaches, but our audience should know that the AIP Certified Coach practitioner training program is actually an advanced training. Everyone who takes the program has to already have some kind of what we call a base certification as a health coach like I am or as a holistic nutrition professional like Marie-Noelle is or something else. At this year's annual summit, we heard from AIP Certified Coaches who are naturopathic doctors, we had fitness professionals, psychologists, we had registered dieticians, we even had a yoga therapist. Truly, we were representing the whole spectrum of holistic and conventional medicine.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (02:06):
And the range of topics covered was very comprehensive. There really was something for everyone, people who have been on autoimmune, like on their autoimmune journey for a long time, as well as beginners to AIP.
Jaime Hartman (02:18):
Indeed. And that seems like a good place to start as we share highlights from the week with the podcast audience. So in addition to being the moderator for all the other sessions, I also gave my own presentation and it was on the topic of getting ready for AIP and it was geared towards those who are AIP beginners. So let's take a listen to some of what I had to say.
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What are the components of our protocol of the AIP? First one at the very top of the list is nutrient sufficiency. So that might surprise you that I didn't start with the word elimination because truly what you eat, what you do eat, that sufficiency of your diet in terms of your nutrient status is going to be the difference between whether this really works for you or it doesn't work for you.
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And when I say nutrient sufficiency, I'm talking about both macronutrients and micronutrients. I won't get into what those all are today and the definitions of them, but I want you to understand that we look for people when they start AIP to have a balanced diet and we don't have a prescription for what your macronutrient ratios should be because that's going to depend on what your unique needs are. But generally speaking, you're going to be eating protein, you're going to be eating carbohydrates, and you're going to be eating fats, and then you're going to look at your micronutrient status as well. But you don't have to count all those things because by simply eating the way that we're going to talk about it will happen naturally. So second part, second component is of course the fact that this is an elimination and a reintroduction diet followed by maintenance.
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So if you look at the words I have on the screen so far here, notice that there's a lot of pieces to this diet element of it, nutrient sufficiency. You do have an elimination part and a reintroduction part, and it's followed by maintenance. So of all those words, elimination is only one of them because it's only one piece. So many people start AIP or Google it or find information about it, and it's just presented as an elimination diet, and that's only one little part. The diet is only one part of the protocol and elimination is only one part of the diet.
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Also important to know that other components of AIP are your lifestyle mediators of healing, we call them. Some people will refer to them as the pillars of AIP or the areas of AIP. It doesn't matter what language you use. I know pillars is becoming really popular and I like that, especially because it implies that they're holding things up. But there are a total of five lifestyle mediators of healing. One is sleep. We've had sessions already this week on sleep and why that's so important and how to address it. Another is stress or stress management. I think anybody with an autoimmune disease that is characterized by having periods of flare and periods of improvement or even remission can say that there are a lot of times in their life they look back and a stressful time period or a stressful experience seemed to precede a flare.
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So that's a known thing and your doctors know that too if you ask them about it. So what do you do? Avoid all stress in your life. We can't make a stress-free life, and I would argue you don't really want to either. A stress-free life would probably not be a joyful life because with the things that give us the most joy, we also get oftentimes a lot of stress at other periods in it. So our goal in talking about AIP and the component of AIP that has to do with stress. We're looking at making you more resilient to stress, giving you the tools that help you get through those stressful periods, but also recognizing that there will be times when stress does impact you and the other components can help get you through and boost you up. I shared that picture of me running that half marathon a few moments ago, and I told you that I'd tried to do it the year before and had to withdraw and defer to the next year.
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That had a lot of things were happening in my life, but one of them was I'd had a family emergency. Somebody really dear to me had a very life-threatening experience and it caused a great deal of stress. And then that no surprise, my disease flared back up and I had to scale back the next point, which is a good one for me to lead into, which is that the third lifestyle media of healing we talk about is movement, exercise, but movement really is the right word. And we've got a few sessions talking about fitness and recovery and doing yoga and how do you incorporate this in the right balance in your life because too much movement like training for a half marathon when you're not doing very well with other areas, that's no good, but also being completely sedentary is not going to help your health either.
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Then there is the component or the lifestyle mediator of just being connected to nature. We've talked about that as well in sessions, talking about how do you help with your sleep by getting out in nature that helps with stress, these all work together and then connection to others. And it is my sincere hope that this AIP summit helps you have at least some sense of a community of folks out there who you can be connected to virtually if not in your real life, who understand and who are going through AIP as you are. But it's, it's also important to maintain the connections you have to people who don't get it. It's tempting when you do an elimination diet to withdraw from social settings because it's hard to explain it. So many things center around food, nobody really wants to be in the position where you have to order the special meal or say you can't have something someone prepared. But I would always encourage people to try to work through that because those connections to other people are going to help you heal as well.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (08:37):
That was such a great presentation, Jaime, and I just love this highlight that you pick and you make so many important points starting with nutrient sufficiency, which is just such a great way to put it to think about it. And along those lines, I also co-hosted a session with our executive chefs at Urban AIP, chef Christina Evans. And what the goal was to show the community that simple cooking doesn't mean flavorless cooking. I'll let you guys listen to some of the simple but very powerful tips that Christina had for us.
Christina Evans (09:13):
So now put it on the side, the basics of our sauce. Remember I told you that we were going to use the two same ingredients for two different sauces. So thinking of a base and when you're making a sauce, you want it to have different levels of flavor. You want it to have some depth. You don't want it to be too sour or you don't want it to go bitter. And so all these things go into making the perfect sauce, but you don't have to worry about it. I've already done it for you, so right, making it easy. All right, so what you need to find, and you will have to read the labels for this, I want you to find some apricot preserves or apricot jelly. You want a nice clean one, no added sugar, nothing weird in the ingredients, and that's going to be our base.
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Alright, so I put in maybe two tablespoons. The second of our two ingredients that are going to cover both sauces is just coconut aminos. So coconut aminos, give it that umami, give it the depth, give it a little bit of saltiness but not too much and takes the place of soy sauce in any recipe. So those of you new to AIP, got to get rid of the soy sauce. Two reasons. It's got soy and it's got gluten in it, so it's the double whammy. So out that goes, but in comes coconut aminos, which basically takes its place and it's amazing. So I'm going to do about two tablespoons, but so that's the base of our sauce, right? So Marie, dear, you get to whisk. You get to whisk, I'm going to give you that and then I'm going to switch places with you. I'm going to do a little choppy chop here. Okay, so the next part of our sauce, we want to get some garlic in there. Maybe I'll use about two cloves for this. Alright, how do you get the peel off your garlic, Marie?
Marie-Noelle Marquis (11:23):
I cut the end and then it kind of just comes apart. But I saw this thing that you can put it in a jar and smash it. That's what my boyfriend does.
Christina Evans (11:32):
You can do that. So if you're doing a dish that has like 40 cloves in it, which the French have a 40 clove chicken dish, chicken stew, then absolutely not low fodmap.
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Not low fodmap for sure. However, lay the knife on top, give it a whack, and then that just peels off. So I always tell people, quick knife skill, pinch your knife when you're holding it thumb and forefinger and then it's an extension of your hand as opposed to holding it way back here. And don't do this. Don't cut that. That's barge. Yeah, don't do that. Can take it. You can. How do we do it? Pinch between a thumb and four fingers. So choke up on it there you not quite that far. And then wrap those fingers back. Yeah, yeah. Then it's an extension of your, so you're not moving your wrist as much, it's just the whole arm action.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (12:37):
Okay.
Christina Evans (12:37):
Yeah. Okay. I think you got it. I believe you do. Alright, so we're just going to slice this up really quickly. Bri the next one. All right, then once we've got the garlic al minced, we're going to set that aside. And the next thing we're going to do is our ginger. Now I actually keep ginger in the freezer. If you go into our freezer, we have a nice stash of it because I like to add it to a lot of dishes because it brightens things up quite a bit, right? So we use coconut milk in the kitchen a lot, but we don't always want that coconutty flavor coming through. And so one of the secrets is to add a little bit of ginger and that kind of broadens that coconut flavor out. Those creamy greens. The creamy greens, right? That's exactly what I'm thinking of. So I tend to trim the ends off just a little bit. A lot of people will tell you that you should get rid of that skin.
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If I'm at home, I honestly don't, just because I find this kind of tedious. So I will tell you at home, and who needs tedious, who needs tedious when you already Exactly. With non-immune condition. So let me just show you what I really do. Can I just be honest? Okay. I just take my microplane, not for Urban AIP, we peel everything we do, but for home cook at home when I'm tired and I'm ready to do the next thing, I grab my microplane, one of the most important tools that you can have in the kitchen. So if you don't have one, get one. And then I take my ginger and I just shred it. Now if ginger is defrosted, it doesn't want to shred, it stays really great, like stringy and it's really hard to cut, right? But from that frozen state, 10 seconds, boom, there it is. Super easy, right? That's really good point. Yeah, that's great.
Jaime Hartman (14:53):
Your session was so much fun to watch. You and Christina have such a great onscreen rapport and I honestly, I learned so much. Thank you for putting that together for us. I know it was a lot of work and it was really appreciated by the summit attendees. Now, before I go on to share a few more highlights, I want to tell our podcast audience that if you miss this summit, you haven't totally missed out. We will be having three seasonal encore throughout the year where we rebroadcast all of the sessions and anyone can watch for free and there's no registration or login required. To find out when that next encore is scheduled, just visit our website, AIP summit.com, anytime. And if you'd rather not wait for whenever that next encore is, you can become a member of the AIP Summit community and then you get access to our entire archive of content and plus some other exclusive perks. Now let's listen to a few of the other highlights, starting with this from our friend and mentor, Mickey Trescott, who led a conversation on cooking for the new modified AIP elimination option.
Mickey Trescott (16:05):
So let's talk a little bit about sourcing modified AIP recipes. So modified AIP is brand new. There are not a lot of dedicated recipe resources out there, I will say yet without making an announcement, but I am up to something. So just a heads up, but this shouldn't be a problem for you because every single core AIP recipe applies to modified AIP. And so there are books, there are dozens of AIP cookbooks at this point. There are hundreds of recipes on my website. On other websites. You can go to the library, check out a lot of these recipe resources. So I don't want you to think that you need to find something that is specifically labeled as modified AIP. What I would actually do is go to those core AIP recipe resources and apply an additive approach to any of these pantry items that you're stocking for modified AIP.
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And next time I'm going to talk a little bit about how I think about adding on some of these ingredients in my cooking. So first, in terms of rice, cooking, a batch of rice separately to add on to your core AIP soups and stews. You could cook aside rice for meals with proteins, sauces, vegetables. This is pretty obvious, but it's actually going to stretch your meals a little bit more. If a super or stew makes six or eight servings, it can easily make 10 or 12 with a big pot of rice also, that can be a great addition for you. You can also use rice cakes or crackers as a convenient vehicle for snacks, pate, tuna salad, canned fish. These are great, really protein rich, nutrient dense snacks and having a really accessible cracker that you can buy at the store is a really nice way to enjoy them.
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And then you can also use those rice noodles as an add-on, not just to soups and stews. So one thing that I'll do is make a braier super stew, maybe have a little bit more broth to the other stuff ratio and then throw in some noodles at the end. But you can also cook noodles and drain them and then use them in a stir fry with a sauce or something that can be really nice. Same thing with the pseudo grains. Quinoa, you can do a pot of quinoa just like you would a pot of rice. And I also really like making salads out of quinoa. It keeps really well and it really soaks up the sauce and the salad dressing and it's often fine for the next day. So it's a great thing to keep for batch cooking. Same thing with the pseudo grains as rice.
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There are some noodles or pastas. Again, check the ingredients because you want to make sure that they are all using modified AIP ingredients. And then lastly, you can cook buckwheat as a breakfast porridge. So one of my favorite breakfasts is to cook some buckwheat. It's very similar to oatmeal. You just cook the buckwheat, grs and water. And then you can add things like pea protein and ground flax for protein and fiber. You can add some seeds. You can stir in a little sunflower seed butter or tahini butter to give it some flavor and then eat it with some berries. And that can be a really nice protein rich, fiber rich breakfast with legumes. You can use those fresh legumes in salads and in cooking in your stir fries. And then those dried legumes, you can either cook them as a side like you would rice, but you can also cook them as a main dish.
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So one of my favorite main dishes to make with beans is like Cuban style black beans. I'll usually make this sometimes with bacon to get the fat started and then cook an onion and then some bone broth, and then I'll cook beans that I have soaked. So sometimes beans can actually be a meal in and of themselves. You can also add canned legumes to soups, stews, or salads. And then you can make snacks and dips like hummus. We can have garbanzo beans and tahini butter. So hummus's most traditional recipes are going to work perfectly for modified AIP. And then again, that pea protein can add supplemental protein to smoothies, a breakfast porridge. These are things that I don't really recommend for core AIP, just because there isn't really a good way to get enough protein to make it a balanced meal. But in modified AIP, it actually works out pretty well.
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And then again with seeds, coffee and chocolate are allowed. Take caution for other ingredients With coffee, you're not going to want to put dairy in it with chocolate, there are some other ingredients you're going to want to look out for. So just be careful there. And then the caffeine can be problematic, so consider that if that might be a problem for you. And then dried seeds, you can sprinkle them on salads, you can eat 'em as snacks. The seed spices will increase variety of flavors that you have. And then those seed butters I love to use to make sauces. So tahini and sunflower. And then ground flax can be a binder in baking or seed protein as a supplemental protein. That hemp seed protein, again, of the two, I really prefer pea protein, but I would definitely taste both of them and see if you have a flavor preference there. Then ghee, I would use as a cooking fat in meals that benefit from a butter like flavor. So you can simply, like in my old cookbooks, you'll notice that I call for solid cooking fat. You can use ghee as a solid cooking fat there. You can use it for roasting vegetables. You can use it for stir frying.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (21:43):
That was great. One of the really exciting aspect of the AIP summit for me is the way it brings together coaches from all over the world who bring their own unique perspectives and cultural influences. So this year we're really fortunate that Lucie Šitinová, who is an AIP Certified Coach in the Czech Republic, recorded a demonstration on various way to prepare organ meats. Let's listen to this brief clip as she is introducing techniques for preparing a liver that you may not have tried before.
Lucie Šitinová (22:19):
This cooking method is very, very easy, but probably not suitable for those who don't like liver. I will include a tip for cooking liver so that you will not really recognize it in the dish later. This is just cooking liver. Actually, it's very similar to frying or still frying liver in a pen, but if you have ever done that in a skillet, you probably know that it's pretty messy. Some oil will be everywhere in your kitchen. You probably don't really like frying or still frying it, so we will use baking instead. And the taste of the liver afterwards is almost the same as if you would fry it. I will start with showing how I usually prepare and cut the liver because it has a small piece of, again, some kind of connective tissue in the middle of it.
Jaime Hartman (23:31):
I am so grateful to Lucie for helping all of us broaden our cooking perspectives. Now, if you are a member of the AIP Summit community, I really encourage you to dig into the archives and find the videos that she created for the previous summits. I guarantee you'll learn something new. Switching gears now. Next I want to highlight one of the new faces we met at the sixth annual AIP Summit, Katie Erba. Katie is an AIP Certified Coach who is a nutritional therapy practitioner, but also has a master's degree in pastoral care and has a background working in hospice. She spoke on a topic that we haven't covered in a previous summit, and that is the spiritual implications of an autoimmune diagnosis. Let's listen to Katie speak for a moment about this important topic.
Katie Erba (24:21):
Next, I would like to just talk about the introspection regarding perceived loss of health. And what I mean by this is that most of us have an idea of what health looks like and that can either come from ourselves, from social media figures, from a family or friend. And there is when this has changed through diagnosis or through symptoms, a loss can be perceived, a loss of self and a loss of identity, and the definition of health path to shift amidst the shifting definition of health, introspective questioning might occur. And some of these questions in regards to spirituality and faith are, what did I do to anger? God? What did I do to deserve this? My life will never be the same. Am I being punished? So I want to reiterate, loss of health or the old way, the prior life is something to grieve.
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In Western culture, death and dying is kept at an arm's length. It's never something that we like to. It seems to be something that we are hesitant to embrace. And so illness and loss of health forces us to face our inevitable death. Now, this does not mean to say that we are going to be dying immediately. It just means that we are all going to die. And so sometimes a diagnosis puts this at the forefront. Henry Nowan in his book, turn My Morning Into Dancing States, how rarely do we look at death, even when close to it? We routinely forget how God makes our lives part of a larger life that stretches far beyond the horizons of birth and death.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (26:02):
Another new face at this year's summit was Lesley Ann Wernsdorfer. Lesley Ann is a certified yoga therapist, and the topic of her session was tiny yoga movements for autoimmunity. And here is a little taste.
Lesley Ann Wernsdorfer (26:18):
Notice your surroundings. Also just notice where you are, where your feet are, how they're resting on their surface. It's fine if you have shoes on. I have socks on right now. Notice also how your sit bones are resting on the surface where you are without trying to equalize them. Can you notice the difference between how heavy your feet are and how heavy your sit bones are? There's nothing to change. This is really an exercise and experience of awareness and growing awareness through feeling. So just feel where your feet are. Feel where your sit bones are. Feel your heart rate.
Jaime Hartman (27:20):
It just so happened that Lesley Ann's session was scheduled in the final time slot on the final day, and it was such a beautifully fitting way to wrap up the week. These tiny yoga movements are a great way to calm both your mind and your body by tapping into your parasympathetic nervous system. Earlier in the week, we learned about the role of the nervous system and autoimmune disease from psychotherapist Bianca Clarke. Here she is giving an overview of that terminology.
Bianca Clarke (27:55):
At the top here we have the central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system. Our central nervous system is like the headquarters if you think of a big company. And then we have the peripheral nervous system, which is the delivery network. So it might be like the delivery drivers sending messages to and from our nervous system. So we've got the headquarters and then the people that are running along sending messages backwards and forwards. It's the peripheral nervous system that we are going to think about a bit more today that then branches off more into the somatic and the autonomic nervous system. The somatic nervous system is concerned with the voluntary actions, as I discussed before, me picking up my mug. That's voluntary. I've chosen to do that. The other side, the autonomic nervous system is involuntary actions. This is the one that we're most concerned with right now.
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This is things like our digestion, our breathing stuff that we don't always control. It just happens for us. The autonomic nervous system branches off again into the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. Some of you might have heard of these two nervous systems before because this is the stuff that's becoming a bit more well known. But your sympathetic nervous system is your fight, flight and freeze response, and your parasympathetic is the more relaxed rest and digest response. We've also got the vagus nerve, which is our star player in this, and we'll talk about that a little bit more towards the end. The vagus nerve is something that helps us to bring about more of the parasympathetic nervous system and get that online much more, and that's the one we want online more. This is the one where we feel rested. We can digest food efficiently and we can feel safe.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (29:39):
That was just amazing. She's such a great speaker. I could listen to Bianca all day long.
Jaime Hartman (29:44):
Me too. But right now we should keep moving along because we do have three more highlights to share with our audience. Next, let's hear from Liz Delizia, who gave me a lot of food for thought in her presentation on the link between autoimmune disease and bone health.
Liz Delizia (30:05):
There are a number of reasons why having an autoimmune condition can impact our bones. Number one is chronic inflammation at the root of everything we know. So this disrupts bone remodeling and can contribute to bone breakdown because bones and joints are active metabolic tissue, right? They are alive and moving and changing, and so they're susceptible to inflammation just like any other part of our body. Malabsorption issues. So as we know, autoimmune conditions, particularly those in the digestive system, can interfere with nutrition absorption. Things like calcium, vitamin D, and these are essential for bone health. So it's one thing. You're not just what you eat as we know, it's what you're absorbing, right? There are some specific autoimmune mediated responses. So in particular, thyroid conditions affect the bones and the remodeling process, and then medications. So often people with autoimmune conditions will be taking medications to treat inflammation or their autoimmune condition in itself, particularly corticosteroids. And this can directly disrupt bone remodeling.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (31:14):
It is such an important topic. And that leads directly into a related topic, which is gut health. You can spend lots of money on gut testing and supplements of course, but Lauren Shanda's presentation on the five budget friendly simple steps for gut health provided a really, really good framework for how you could make a big difference with minimal expense. So here she is talking about why we should not ignore our gut health.
Laurane Chemenda (31:43):
So if you're ignoring your gut health and you're only focusing on what to eat on sleeping well, which is a lot already to focus on, right? And all the five pillars of AIP, but if we're doing all of this and you have a lot of digestive issues and symptoms and you're ignoring your gut health, this can still contribute to chronic inflammation and flare-ups in your autoimmune symptoms. And so sometimes when you're not seeing progress, when you've applied AIP, particularly the food pillar of AIP nutrition pillar and you're not seeing a lot of progress, then you might want to think more about your particular case. What's going on in your gut, what's going on in your digestion, and how can you improve it? It also contributes to nutrient malabsorption, and that leads to fatigue and deficiencies. And we know that deficiencies is one of the commonalities of autoimmune disease.
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It contributes to mood imbalances due to the gut brain connection. So a lot of our neurotransmitters are secreted by our bacteria in our gut 90, and actually, in fact, 90% of serotonin is secreted by our gut bacteria. So a lot of your mood and our mental health is dependent on our gut bacteria. It increases vulnerability to food sensitivities. When we see inflammation in the gut, when we see have a leaky gut and we see a lot of immune responses and your immune system being so triggered, it becomes so sensitive to a lot of different foods that actually they shouldn't be sensitive to. And these foods can be completely different to foods that we're avoiding on AIP, right? You could be sensitive to broccoli, to carrots. It's your immune system that is mounting in immune response, sending antibodies to the gut to help fight off these, what he thinks is a pathogen. But it's just a fragment of food. And a lot of times we see a lot of food sensitivities in people who have chronic inflammation. And then of course, we have chronic gut related symptoms, anything that goes from bloating to GERD, to constipation, diarrhea, and all these other symptoms.
Jaime Hartman (34:07):
And finally, I want to end this review of our highlights with the beginning. The very first session of the sixth annual AIP summit was on the topic of AIP as a gentle act of self-care, presented by Becca Benning, a health coach from the uk. Let's listen to her as she sets the stage of defining exactly what self-care really means.
Becca Benning (34:37):
Before we start talking about how AIP could potentially work in your life as a gentle act of self-care, let's think quickly about what self-care actually is. There are lots of different definitions. It's here's one. If you Google the definition of self-care, you get things like this, the practice of taking action to preserve or improve one's own health, or maybe the practice of taking an active role in protecting one's own wellbeing and happiness in particular during periods of stress, which has a different slant on it. That one, I think. And the World Health Organization defines it as the ability of individuals, families, and communities to promote health, prevent disease, maintain health, and cope with illness and disability, with or without the support of a health worker. So there's a lot of different nuances to those definitions, and what I tend to look at it as is it's basically the process of taking action to meet our own needs across the board, whatever those needs might be. So that might include spiritual wellbeing, it does include physical wellbeing, of course, it also includes emotional wellbeing and all of our professional wellbeing. Even there's no aspect of life really that doesn't impact our overall wellbeing, however we conceptualize that. So self-care is a broad and comprehensive area.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (36:14):
Thank you for sharing these highlights. Jaime, again, for our audience, if you want to experience the full AIP summit, you can tune into our next encore. Or if you don't want to wait, you can become a member of the AIP Summit Community and explore the full archive of content, which includes not only the six annual AIP summit recordings, but also the recordings from years one through five.
Jaime Hartman (36:36):
So that wraps up this episode. Again, we want to remind you that AIP is a protocol with multiple branches and there are multiple ways to approach it, and we are here to guide you through the process. This podcast is intended to bring you resources so that while you can do AIP on your own, you don't have to do it alone.
Marie-Noelle Marquis (36:58):
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Jaime Hartman (37:06):
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